Beyond The Phoenix Lights: An Interview With Dr. Lynne D. Kitei

Model image of Phoenix LightsOn March 13, 1997, there were mass UFO sightings over Arizona, Nevada, California and New Mexico over a period of several hours. The hundreds of people in Phoenix who called the 911 Center reported seeing five to seven amber-colored lights in a “V”- or wedge-shape, spaced equidistantly and over a mile wide. Some observers reported the lights were connected by solid material (the stars blacked out when it passed over them) in a triangle shape. Everyone agreed there was no noise. Interest regarding the event increased, as did the ridicule of the witnesses. Four months later, a spokesperson from the Air National Guard announced that they had “forgotten” that a National Guard unit from Maryland was visiting at that time and had dropped several illuminated flares. Case solved.

Seriously?

Lynne D. Kitei, M.D., was one of the many witnesses to the Phoenix Lights – one who also had had the presence of mind to take photographs. (Read her biography Here.) While she was happy to share her photographs, she initially chose to remain anonymous. Frustrated with the misinformation that was being presented, however, in 2004 she decided to not only come out publicly, but also to develop a comprehensive Website, write a bestselling book and help make an internationally award winning documentary.

MTPS:

It’s been a little over 20 years since the event referred to as The Phoenix Lights, but for you it actually began a few years earlier. Could you tell us a little about that?

Dr. Lynne:

My husband and I had no previous interest or knowledge of spacecraft, extraterrestrials or other paranormal phenomena before 1995, when we both witnessed and photographed – on 35-mm film – three oval orbs in a pyramid array just yards from our mountainside home. The experience was mind-boggling in and of itself; I describe it fully in the most recent edition of my book, The Phoenix Lights: A Skeptic’s Discovery That We Are Not Alone.  But make no mistake, what we saw and documented on film was definitely not conventional. Not only do we live in a gated, no fly zone – which would rule out military activity – but the anomalies seemed inter-dimensional, with an intelligence behind them. Keep in mind this was two years prior to the March, 1997 mass sighting now described as the Phoenix Lights.

MTPS:

Although you had photos and video evidence, you were very reluctant to come out publicly and talk about what you had witnessed. Why?

Dr. Lynne:

This topic is not only controversial, but those who did come forward in 1997 were quickly ridiculed, harassed and discredited. At the time I had over 20 years experience as a scientist, educator and physician, and felt I needed to educate myself to what was REALLY going on before I could even think of sharing it. Part of this process consisted of going to great lengths to have my photographic evidence -which dates from 1995 through the present- analyzed and authenticated by both university and military optical experts. Twenty years later and my 35-mm data still cannot be explained or denied.

In addition, when thousands of people reported seeing the same thing in March, 1997 that I had been seeing and documenting on film for two years, it sent me on a journey to find a logical explanation. I have yet to find one. If anything, my meticulous inquiry opened a whole new world to me that ultimately – with all the mis- and disinformation abounding – I felt obliged to share and to let others decide for themselves.

MTPS:

Is this when you wrote your book?

Dr. Lynne:

After the historic and still unexplained March, 1997 Arizona mass sightings, I began gathering the most credible information and ended up with a 750 page journal that I condensed into 250 pages of the most compelling data. This became the first edition of “The Phoenix Lights” Book, which was published in 2004. It is now in its third printing; the most recent edition came out just a couple of months ago.

But it has grown far beyond that. The response to my book was so positive that I ended up leaving my Chief Clinical Consulting job at the world renowned Arizona Heart Institute to produce a documentary (The Phoenix Lights Documentary – We Are Not Alone), which ended up winning several awards – Winner of the Best Documentary of the 2005 International Sci-Fi Film Festival, Winner of the Best Director of the 2005 New York International Independent Film and Video Festival, Nominated as the best Documentary Feature at the 2006 New Jersey International Film and Screenplay Festival, Nominated for Best Documentary Feature at the 2006 Gloria Film Festival in Utah, Nominated for Best Documentary Feature at the 2006 San Fernando Valley International Film Festival, and Official Selection at an additional dozen film festivals. This documentary was updated and released as The Phoenix Lights – Beyond Top Secret this January. And just recently I released a groundbreaking 150-page (black & white) coloring book and 160 page (colored) graphic novel for ALL ages, that address the Phoenix Lights, UFOs and Crop Circles.

MTPS:

The media was not very kind to the Phoenix Lights witnesses – they were the recipients of the very ridicule you had been trying to avoid. And there were stellar witnesses who anyone would have trusted to tell the difference between flares, stars, comets or something a little bit stranger – among them were air traffic controllers with degrees in meteorology, a 747 pilot who was actually in the air flying at the time, and a combat pilot who had dropped hundreds of flares in Vietnam, etc. After seeing how they were treated, what made you change your mind about being publicly identified with this issue?

Dr. Lynne:

It certainly wasn’t an easy task coming forward. It took many years of soul searching to take that next step. But after doing as thorough an investigation as possible for over seven years, the data seemed too important not to share. In addition, as a physician and experiencer, I wanted others who have had paranormal experiences to know that they are not crazy. Nor are they alone.

It must be stressed that most anomalies can be explained. Only a small percent cannot. But just because we may not have the technology – yet – to definitively define what these things are, it doesn’t mean they are not real. We may just be looking on an AM dial for an FM frequency.

And after 20 years of studying the credible data, it is clear that we need to get this topic out in the open – address it, accept it and study it – so we can find out who is driving these things, as well as move forward in our own evolution.

The data speaks for itself. My bottom line is that if I can be a credible voice so that people actually look at the data, then I’ve done my job and it was well worth the risk of coming forward.

MTPS:

Let’s address the explanation put forth by the National Guard (over four months after the fact!) that the Phoenix Lights were actually a series of flares that had been dropped during normal training exercises. You reviewed a few of them in your book:

Flares are white, not amber-colored like the lights viewed over Phoenix;
Flares are affected by the wind. They don’t hover – instead, they drift haphazardly with the wind as they float downwards while attached to a parachute;
Flares don’t stay in equidistant lines;
Flares have huge smoke trails that are illuminated by the flare itself and are used to cast light on the surrounding area. The lights observed over Phoenix were self-luminescent and did not have smoke trails or illuminate the area around them.
Flares don’t travel across the state. The Phoenix Lights traveled across the states of Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and California, right over people’s heads at roof top level, in rock solid equidistantly-spaced mile-wide and larger V, triangle and boomerang arrays for over a dozen hours;

Dr. Lynne:

In addition to to those points, I’d like to call attention to the fact that the National Guard made several conflicting statements about the flares they claimed to have dropped. Some stated that their planes had all returned from the gunnery range at 5:30 p.m. Others said that all craft were grounded by 8:30 p.m. Still others said they had to deploy the flares left over while on their return to Davis Montana AFB, 90 miles south of Phoenix. A later explanation claimed they deployed flares at Luke AFB in Phoenix after 10 p.m. Frankly, this time would have been very late for a flare drop. So why did they drop them at that late hour, unless it was a diversion to what really happened.

It’s important to note here that there were several confirmed unexplained sightings around 10:00 p.m. of the SAME mile-wide and larger V-shaped, triangle and boomerang “objects” that were witnessed by thousands in the preceding hours and after – sort of a Grand Finale while most people were still outside. Some of these arrays were captured on video, including the arrowhead of five lights by a group from MUFON (Mutual UFO Network) and my own video of the three end points of a giant triangle or V object (confirmed by air traffic controllers at Sky Harbor IAP as appearing at 1000’ altitude over Class B restricted airspace at the same time aI was videotaping the anomaly). Both of these videos were filmed BEFORE 10 p.m., while the two large boomerang-shaped array of lights were filed on video AFTER 10 p.m.

In addition, the flare explanation does not explain my 35-mm photographs of the same anomalous light formation two months earlier in January 1997, that was also confirmed the next morning by air traffic controllers at Sky Harbor IAP as appearing at 1000’ about Class B restricted airspace. Even more riveting, the SAME phenomena was also in the SAME location in the 35-mm photos captured during our close 1995 sighting as well. In other words, similar if not the same phenomena appeared in the SAME location in 1995, January 1997 and then in March 1997 during the mass sighting events.

And I have the analyzed, authenticated and still unexplained 35-mm photo evidence to prove it! People can look at it for themselves Here.

The “flare” excuse in the ONLY military explanation to date. Even if they were deployed as a diversion, flares cannot explain the thousands of reports of silent one-mile and larger equidistant, rock solid formations of lights and multiple CRAFT that traversed the state and beyond for hours. The presence of a massive craft with gun metal bottoms, windows and even “beings” at the windows has never been addressed in 20 years!

However, after a 12-year study of thousands of reports in which two or more people had witnessed the same craft, it was concluded that there was a parade of possibly 10 different craft, beautifully illustrated and animated Here.

MTPS:

Didn’t the military at some point try to re-enact the dropping of the flares in order to prove that the lights were not UFOs? What happened?

Dr. Lynne:

Three years after the 1997 Phoenix Lights mass sightings, three air national guard units announced a public display of the “Phoenix Lights” scheduled for March 8, 2000. Their attempt to re-enact the anomalous aerial phenomena failed dramatically, proving to the witnesses of the Phoenix Lights that they definitely were not flares. You can watch This Video Clip and judge for yourself.

The anomalies known as the “Phoenix Lights” have never been recreated or explained to this day – 20 years later! But they do continue to grace the skies worldwide. Other countries are much more open to describe them as “otherworldly,” as our former Arizona governor did when he disclosed -ten years after the 1997 mass sightings- that he had actually witnessed one of the mile-wide craft.

MTPS:

If I recall correctly, wasn’t there some NASA video footage from the space station that showed an incident where three unidentified spheres lined up in a triangle over the Earth?

Dr. Lynne:

Yes, we show that impressive footage in the latest version of our internationally award winning documentary, featuring Astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell, a 911 Phoenix police operator, military, pilots and much more – confirming the reality of these unexplained phenomena.

MTPS:

In your book you said,

“Maybe, just maybe they want us to investigate – not the military, not the government – but us the people. And now they now that we have finally begun.”

I think this is a very interesting comment. Here in the United States it seems as if everything the average person has relied upon is disintegrating. We can no longer put our trust in government, the military or the media. So what’s left? Ourselves. Maybe all of this is coming together at this time for a reason. We’ve reached a certain technical and political level on this planet. Maybe we’re being shown that the next step is to stop depending on outside authorities and instead put our trust in who we are and what we can do ourselves.

Dr. Lynne:

That’s a very poignant point, as one of the main objectives of the “Phoenix Lights” phenomena seems to be touching one person a a time – in a gentle, non-threatening way – to the realization that we are not alone in the universe AND to wake us up to what we are doing to ourselves and to our planet – before it is too late.

MTPS:

I was struck by one thing you mentioned in your book, that a great percentage of the people who witnessed the Phoenix Lights were deeply affected by them – they came out of their experience with an increased awareness and appreciation of line on our planet and the need to protect it.

Dr. Lynne:

Exactly. A positive transformation took place for the “Phoenix Lights” experiencer in real time and long term, which I detail in the latest edition of the book.

Not only were witnesses in awe, excited, felt blessed to experience the phenomena first-hand, but just being in the presence of the “Phoenix Lights” changed witnesses forever. From thousands of reports, the witness was awakened to the wondrous possibilities of the universe … and of ourselves. And this is a deep and lasting positive transformation – one that does not happen with flares, blimps, Chinese lanterns, conventional aircraft., etc. We have people who will no longer eat meat, have gone into the environmental and peace movements, have changed their worldview forever.

And to be clear, it is not a belief, but a knowing.

MTPS:

So it was all positive? No one reported anything negative associated with the Phoenix Lights?

Dr. Lynne:

Even though there are now a couple of fictitious horror films releases in the last year that are supposedly based on the “Phoenix Lights” mass sighting, in reality there has not been ONE credible report of harm, threat or abduction associated with the cryptic phenomena. As mentioned, quite the contrary.

Additionally, in my extensive inquiry, I also discovered that there were a number of first-hand witnesses to the “Phoenix Lights” who also had had childhood NDEs (Near Death Experiences). Interestingly, I did also and go into detail of my own life-changing NDE in the book. This intriguing realization led me on a new road of discovering that there is indeed a connection between ALL unexplained phenomena – be they Near Death, Out-of-Body or Contact – that have a mystical light associated with the experience. I now call an Unexplained Phenomenon an UP, because of the positive enlightenment that accompanies each experience. I lay out the similarities very simply in the book.

In the latest edition of the Phoenix Lights book, I’ve also included a dramatic NEW photo that confirms the reality of “Spirit World.” This capture in time convinced me that all UPs, including the Phoenix Lights, are real and that the information I gathered needed to be shared.

MTPS:

The Phoenix Lights happened 20 years ago. If something of similar magnitude were to happen today, do you think there is a better way we could address it? Maybe instead of seeking answers from the government and the military, we should just ignore them and instead seek the answers ourselves.

Dr. Lynne:

Image of Dr. Lynne D. Kitei, Phoenix Lights experiencerEven though there is so much mis- and dis-information “out there,” along with hoaxes and discrediting concerning this important topic, the good news is that people are starting to wake up to the need for healthy skepticism and prudence when evaluating unexplained “happenings” as well as searching out the most credible information available. That is one of the reasons I came forward after seven years of anonymity – to set the record straight and inform the public of the facts surrounding the “Phoenix Lights” and other Unexplained Phenomena. Then they can make up their own minds.

Everyone comes from a different background, a different belief system, a different world view. Some people can’t deal with this topic. Others don’t want to and that’s okay. Everyone in their own time. But we have worked very hard to create the Phoenix Lights Network website at www.thephoenixlights.net, book, documentary and now the recently released graphic novel/coloring books that present the most credible data in a profession and non-threatening way.

MTPS:

What are our lessons learned from this?

Dr. Lynne:

To keep looking UP … because we are not alone!

 

 

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