Learning To Dowse – Missteps and Baby Steps

I’m trying to learn how to dowse – not very successfully so far, but I’m making progress. I recently chatted with professional dowser Greg Storozuk (click here for my previous interview with him).



I am the proud owner of two sets of L-rods, a bobber and a pendulum but I don’t know how to dowse. Although I’ve read books and watched instruction videos, I was reluctant to venture out and try to do it myself. Truth to say, I felt …embarrassed. (Taking into consideration the type of website I have, that’s actually a pretty strong statement.) While the newbie is often advised to practice dowsing with a pendulum or bobber by, for example, predicting whether an unturned card is red or black, this type of exercise has never worked well for me. It’s as if my subconscious is insulted by my attempt to play parlor games and refuses to engage. Instead it demands to be presented with real life situations that actually have a purpose. I needed to head outside.

In an ideal world I would be able to learn to dowse by contacting my local water witch or doodlebugger and asking to tag along on a couple of jobs. These experts, however, are becoming harder to find as society’s reliance on technology undermines the older methods. Unfortunately the shrinking number of traditional dowsers in local communities means that an even smaller number of people will ever learn the skill themselves – a downward spiral that is self-reinforcing. While many of the professional dowsers I’ve talked with have taken classes, most of them got started in dowsing by observing a real life person, either when a relative put a stick in their hands when they were kids, or after seeing how the local farmers could call in a neighbor to help them locate a site to drill a new well.

Since I wasn’t able to locate any local dowsers and drilling for either water or oil was out of the question, I decided to focus on something that was already there. I took my L-rods to Aztalan State Park and High Cliff State Park (both within a couple of hours of my house) to dowse Indian mounds. Since I am not sufficiently experienced to distinguish between ley lines, Curry lines, the Hartmann net or any other type of geopathic stress, I dowsed with the simple intent to identify the presence of unusual earth energies, whatever they might be.

aztalan1Originally settled nearly 1,000 years ago, the city of Aztalan was was the northern outpost of the Mississippian civilization (also referred to as Cahokia or the Moundbuilders). The park now contains three large flat-top ceremonial mounds, many smaller marker mounds, and a partially reconstructed stockade. I took my L-rods as I walked on and around the two larger mounds and along the stockade.

I can honestly say that this is the first time in my life that I tried to use my L-rods and was sure that I hadn’t caused their movements myself. When I went through one of the stockade entrances, my L-rods swung wide. When I stood on the mounds (I only visited two), the L-rods crossed. I repeatedly climbed up and down the mounds and circled the stockade; the results I received were consistent.

High Cliff State Park is known by some as the most haunted campsite in Wisconsin. Between 1,000 and 1,500 years ago local tribes (thought to be Sioux) constructed over 30 effigy mounds in the area – nine remain. Curiously, while most effigy mounds in the United States have been found to be used for funeral purposes, the mounds at High Cliff contained neither human remains nor artifacts. Archeologists theorize the mounds had either a sacred purpose and/or signified the status of the family that built it. High Cliff is, as the name implies, a high cliff on the banks of Lake Winnebago. Part of the Niagara escarpment, its’ geology includes dolomite and limestone. Numerous freshwater springs flow down the cliff into the lake. If anyplace would have interesting earth energies, High Cliff surely would.

I used my L-rods to dowse all nine of the effigy mounds that still survive – and the L-rods reacted to all nine. At seven of the nine my L-rods crossed sharply. At one, the L-rods crossed weakly. At the last mound the L-rods swung wide. I actually felt like I had accomplished something but reality crashed down when I later spoke with professional dowser Greg Storozuk. He made it quite clear that I was only at the beginning and that I really needed to do a lot more work in order to figure out what was happening.

Greg Storozuk:

Greg Storozuk 2In the experiences you were having, the physical targets were already there so what you were finding were the energies – the reasons the mounds were there. In all older sacred places they would mark the areas they were honoring. These could be ley line intersections, water veins, water domes and entrance/exit sites of the veins, crystal sites, vortices, or any of a hundred different possibilities. All the answers to any questions you may have are already known since they’ve already been Created, so all you have to do is to ask the proper questions in the proper state of mind.

It’s crucial to both know and understand your target. This requires specific knowledge about it. The word “energy” means nothing at all except that. Energy. Since the Universe is only composed of Consciousness, Intelligence, and Energy, the word ‘energy’ covers a LOT of territory. You need to ask logical follow-up questions. To use water as an example – What kind of water? (Fresh? Salt? Clear? Flowing? Non-flowing as in an aquifer? Potable? Non-potable? Deep? Shallow? Contaminated? With what? Coliforms? Lead? Iron? Etc etc. etc. For Indian mounds – Your first inquiry would be something like – “Why were they put here?”
For Energetic purposes? (Positive/negative); or, Religious/spiritual purposes? I think you get the picture.

Note that each question poses additional questions so ‘energetic purposes’ could mean to mark something – like a water dome, water vein, crossing veins, (how many?), fault or fracture (which are negative energies by the way); energy ley or leys, a ley line or lines (which are different from leys although both are positive energies) and/or other natural phenomena. They could also mark burial sites for something – graves perhaps, sacred objects, or be a distance marker pointing to another site. Note here that it’s ESSENTIAL that you know something about water, geopathic zones, leys, ley lines, etc., or you’ll find something and not be able to ask the right questions to determine what it is.

Back to Me

Sigh. I felt like I had to start all over from the beginning. And that meant I had to establish my “codes” with my dowsing instruments by asking them to show me how they would respond in the event I posed a yes or no question. My bobber and pendulum gave me conventional responses – up and down for “yes” and side to side for “no.” When I conducted this exercise with my L-rods, however, the response was different. The conventional understanding is that when L-rods cross, the answer is “no,” and when the L-rods swing wide the answer is “yes.” But both pairs of my L-rods gave me crossed rods as a “yes” answer and no movement as a “no” answer.

Maybe I should have done this earlier.

Greg Storozuk (after he laughed):

You shouldn’t skip anything when you’re learning to dowse, and learning your own codes should be one of your first steps. Every person has their own unique way of dowsing – no one is identical. One time a fellow dowser and I were showing a class how it was done. When we came to a certain location both our L-rods had reactions. My friend’s L-rods crossed while my L-rods swung wide. This was because we had established different personal codes. It sure confused the students, though, and we laughed about that.

But it’s important to start at the beginning and take your time learning. Too many people these days want to start in the middle of the ladder and begin applying it right away. I attended one class in which students were allegedly going to be taught how to use pendulum dowsing for healing purposes. Now healing is way high up on the dowsing scale of complexity, as is treasure hunting a a few other things. Dowsing is a simple thing, but it isn’t easy – there’s a difference y’know, and dowsing for healing purposes is highly complex. How many of the people in that class had ever dowsed before at all, let alone were successful? But in that class the teacher showed her students a pendulum and told them something like “when it circles to the right, this means ‘yes.’ When it circles to the left this means ‘no.’ Now, let’s go out and heal cancer.”  I had to get up and leave the class. That wasn’t dowsing – that was being irresponsible and dangerous.


One of the problems I have with dowsing is that I doubt myself and any reactions I observe while using my dowsing tools. I know I shouldn’t – you often say the answers are already out there and that all I have to do ask the right questions in the right frame of mind. But when I’m holding the L-rod or the chain of the pendulum, I’m always examining whether I’m moving it myself. I know that shouldn’t matter because the dowsing tools are just indicators to give us the information that we already know, but I find that whole idea difficult.

Greg Storozuk:

Yes, your instruments are just indicators. In reality, the answer comes to you immediately when you ask a question, and your rods take a second or two to move. You can actually dowse without using any tools – this is called “deviceless dowsing” – but you have to remember that you’re in the physical reality; you need to stay rooted.


Wouldn’t deviceless dowsing be better because it’s more direct? At least if I “go with my gut” I wouldn’t be so frustrated with my dowsing tools – I’d just be right or wrong.

Greg Storozuk:

The danger with deviceless dowsing is that there’s too much information in the cosmos and the mind can only focus on one thing. Without the dowsing tool to focus on, it’s easy to lose yourself. One thing that isn’t much talked about amongst “old school” dowsers is how we lose people every year to deviceless dowsing. They open themselves to everything and then lose themselves somewhere in the ether. An old teacher of mine went entirely deviceless, but then went back to using dowsing tools because it was too easy to lose it. Another dowser I knew ended up in the hospital with a nervous breakdown. It happened to me once, but luckily people were there to drag me back to physical reality. When you’re dealing with something exceedingly powerful like thought, you need to be careful where you direct it. When you open yourself to everything it’s easy to lose yourself. Dowsing tools and posing questions keep you rooted in the physical reality.


What mistakes did you make early on? How did you fix them?

Greg Storozuk:

Mental programming is very important for the successful dowser – everyone has specific hang-ups. Maybe when you were a child you were raised in a certain religious tradition, or were taught that the world was only made up of physical matter. It’s a challenge to learn a new way of looking at reality. And then there are all sorts of “rules” that individual dowsers swear by: Don’t wear bright colors. Don’t wear rubber soles. The best time to dowse is high noon. Etc., etc. People get mental programs on what they can or cannot do.

dowsingcartoonMy first foray into dowsing for oil is a good example. An executive at a petroleum company wanted to see if there was any truth to dowsers being accurate. I was invited into a boardroom in which there was a long table covered by white paper. Underneath the paper was a map of the area where the company was going to drill. The executive wanted to see whether I could identify the spot where his geologists had already determined a significant oil trap was located. So I dowsed over the white paper. Halfway down the length of the paper I got a dowsing response – something electrical. The executive told me I had located the power supply for the town. That made me feel more confident and I continued dowsing. I didn’t find any evidence of oil, however, and told him that if his company drilled anywhere in the area represented on the map they would only get a dry hole. At that point three or four geologists entered the room and they laughed at me – they had found an oil trap that was predicted to yield 50 barrels/day. Their comments – and ridicule – were embarrassing.

About two years later the same executive hired me to dowse his house (for geopathy). While I was there, he casually mentioned that I had been right – the well the company “knew” was going to yield 50 barrels/day had proven to be a dry hole. Why hadn’t he told me before? Because it was embarrassing for his geologists and he didn’t want to make them feel worse.

He was worried about their egos? I blew up at him for not having told me before. I was angry because I had lost two years – I had spent two years “knowing” that I couldn’t dowse for oil. My mental programming told me I couldn’t dowse for oil.

I worked to change that. Now my mental programming says I can dowse anywhere, anytime for anything. Of course no dowser can claim 100% success; if they do, run away. My success rate with oil is 70 – 75%. With water it’s closer to 96%; Geopathics – 98%-99%; Ghosts and entity removals – 98 – 99%. While percentages vary with the target structure, this accuracy rate isn’t unusual among good dowsers. In the Hans Dieter Betz study ( Note: click here for my previous article that reviews this study), dowsers had a 96% accuracy rate – a typical accuracy rate for hydro-geologists using conventional methods is between 30-50%.


You emphasize the need to ask the right questions also. Do you have any examples that illustrate the importance of that?

Greg Storozuk:

This was a few years after my initial experience with the dry well, and I had successfully found a good oil well for a company. They invited me back to dowse another area. At this second place I got a strange dowsing reaction – my hands gripped the the L-rods so tightly the rods couldn’t move. I told the company to drill. They did find oil, but they were unable to extract it because it was too “tight.” Needless to say they didn’t hire me again.

This is why it’s so important to ask not only the right questions, but the perfect questions. This is why it’s so important to both know and understand your target. Even though I found oil, if I had asked additional questions concerning consistency, extractability and profitability, I would have advised the company not to drill. Similarly, if I’m locating a water well, I need to ask questions pertaining to water quality, supply over time, and contamination, etc. Even clay can sometimes trigger a dowsing response when you’re looking for water. Successful dowsers need to understand what they’re looking for in order to understand what they’re seeing. This is why you can’t give a person a pendulum and tell them that when it circles to the right it means cancer.


So if I keep at it, how long should it take me to learn how to dowse?

Greg Storozuk:

Everyone is different, but going slow and really learning the material is better than going too fast and skipping stuff. I’ve been a dowser for forty years but I’m still learning. Right now I have a teacher who is showing me how to dowse over the phone. The goal is to be speaking over a cellphone with someone who is at the desired location, and tell them where to go (ex: 20 feet to the north, 10 feet on the other side of the big ash tree) until they get to the right spot. This is all done blind, without having a map or a picture of the area where the other person is located.


And this works?

Greg Storozuk:

It looks promising so far. I’ve been able to direct my teacher to the target spots over the phone, then have him walk a distance away and then return him back to the same spot. I still need to practice this more though.

Back to Me

So…. Even though Greg was very encouraging, I admit I’m feeling a bit discouraged. There is so much to learn! There is so much mental programing to overcome! And at the same time we’re living in a culture that tends to be less than welcoming to dowsing.

Still, I have another trip planned for High Cliff before the snow flies. Before I go I’ll research the culture of the Moundbuilders, as well as the geology of the park. I’ll write down questions ahead of time rather than just think them up on the fly.

After all, need to understand what I’m looking for before I can understand what I’m seeing.



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  1. Greg is Awesome.
    I saw him in Vermont and he changed my view of my ability for the better.

  2. He was my teacher at the conference. way back when. been dowsing ever since!

  3. James F Coyle has a lot on mindpower, dowsing, intuition etc.

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